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Re: Rayman 2 speedrunning

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Yeah, those Rayman 2 platforms/versions might be actually confusing - at least we have recently merged all "console" runs in Rayman 2 The Great Escape (while PS1 and Revolution are still considered different games). :D
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A new run has just been validated on speedrun.com!

Iron Mountains: Any% - PC in 06m 57s 14ms by aullos - 1st place

Submitted: 21/10/2021
Platform: PC
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Re: Rayman 2 speedrunning

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aullos wrote:double hey on the balloon :c
I'm actually quite curious as to what exactly causes that.
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A new run has just been validated on speedrun.com!

Woods of Light: Any% - PC in 01m 13s 837ms by aullos - 1st place

Submitted: 23/10/2021
Platform: PC
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could save at least .5 on the slide
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Re: Rayman 2 speedrunning

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Hunchman801 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:55 am I'm actually quite curious as to what exactly causes that.
It's a different sound effect too, as if it were loaded in addition to the regular one.
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A new run has just been validated on speedrun.com!

Walk of Life: 100% IL - Console in 02m 42s by stutpip123 - 1st place

Submitted: 22/04/2020
Platform: Dreamcast
Region: EUR / PAL
stutpip123 wrote:same run thats currently on Walk of Life IL Any%. As the run is 100% submitting to the empty board
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hoodlumsworld wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:26 pm It's a different sound effect too, as if it were loaded in addition to the regular one.
Sounds like the "hey" from some of the dialogues, not sure if it's linked to that new skip or completely unrelated.
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New runs have just been validated on speedrun.com!

Any% - PC in 02h 02m 37s by Destabilize - 18th place

Submitted: 05/11/2021
Platform: PC
Destabilize wrote:Its a run


All Masks - Console in 01h 54m 46s by Payman - 1st place

Submitted: 06/11/2021
Platform: Nintendo 64
Region: USA / NTSC
Payman wrote:Sloppy early game, decent mid game, great late game, and bad end game.


Any% - PC in 01h 35m 26s by Destabilize - 14th place

Submitted: 07/11/2021
Platform: PC
Destabilize wrote:Getting better
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Re: Rayman 2 speedrunning

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SpeedBot wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:52 am Any% - PC in 01h 35m 26s by Destabilize - 14th place

Submitted: 07/11/2021
Platform: PC
Destabilize wrote:Getting better
That guy is determinated - he is gotta get much lower!
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Re: Rayman 2 speedrunning

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Amazing... I'm glad the R2 speedrunning community is still going strong!

(Glad my strat at 1:50 is still in use) :mrgreen:
hoodlumsworld wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:07 pm
DarnokPL wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:03 pm So F8 with it is slowdown ability is useful for run - in Canopy it makes the pole skip easier (as you need to shoot a pole which is far away - and F8 lengthens range of your bullets), and it also help to pass the final gate without bush (as in slowmotion your movement can be way more precise).
Slowing down the bullets increases their range? This must be because a lot of the game's mechanics are based on time... 🤯
I'm guessing it has to do with predictive collision detection altering the length of the collision ray(?) depending on framerate to prevent physics clipping (the length of the ray would be the radius of the shot + velocity divided by the framerate). Rayman 2 seems to have this one-frame delay between collisions and the object's actual reaction to collisions, making this easy to exploit.
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New runs have just been validated on speedrun.com!

Any% - PC in 01h 25m 40s by Destabilize - 11th place

Submitted: 09/11/2021
Platform: PC
Destabilize wrote:Sub 1:20 next?


Prison Ship: Any% IL - PC in 03m 04s 189ms by Darnok_PL - 1st place

Submitted: 11/11/2021
Platform: PC
Darnok_PL wrote:As noone yet decided to go for IL for this level, I've decided to be the first one. 100% IL coming!


Prison Ship: 100% IL - PC in 03m 52s 639ms by Darnok_PL - 1st place

Submitted: 11/11/2021
Platform: PC
Darnok_PL wrote:Well, here is the scariest 100% IL in this game (I hope this IL run will prevent people from being afraid of this level in their full hundo runs). :D
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Re: Rayman 2 speedrunning

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Great job Darnok! That sliding section is really technical, and it's impressive how close you are to falling into the void each time. As for 100%, getting all the Lums in one go is something I'm pretty sure I've never succeeded in doing. And I'm not only talking about that infamous last bit where you have to circle around the exit. :lol:
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Yeah, I remember my practice sessions for my 100% runs - and I think that Prison Ship itself took about half of the time spend for entire practice. But it is nice to see this "impossible level" available in one go (I still remember great runners - like KirbyComment or Manocheese - trying to get all the lums in Prison Ship with the use of backwards jumps (the same like at Axel skip) - as it looked to be simply impossible to get all lums in one go). :D Actually I believe on 30 fps it would be impossible.

Also, this level itself is a major reason for people being scared of 100% attempts (me too - mainly due to this "infamous circle" that you've mentioned - I've never failed missed any lum there yet - but it is very easy to imagine a stupid mistake). :P
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A new run has just been validated on speedrun.com!

Any% - PC in 01h 19m 42s by Destabilize - 5th place

Submitted: 13/11/2021
Platform: PC
Destabilize wrote:Top 3 next?
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Re: Rayman 2 speedrunning

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DarnokPL wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:26 pm Yeah, I remember my practice sessions for my 100% runs - and I think that Prison Ship itself took about half of the time spend for entire practice. But it is nice to see this "impossible level" available in one go (I still remember great runners - like KirbyComment or Manocheese - trying to get all the lums in Prison Ship with the use of backwards jumps (the same like at Axel skip) - as it looked to be simply impossible to get all lums in one go). :D Actually I believe on 30 fps it would be impossible.
Which part had you restart the most? I suppose you'd go for safer strats in a full 100% run.
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Heh, in 100% speedruns I don't really reset that much - as those runs are already too long to make them multiple times. Also it is hard to say, what major timelosses are - probably Prison Ship actually, but there are many places/tricks which can just randomly go wrong - in entire run.

Actually today 100% contains probably more glitches/tricks than Any% - Any% is hard up to early Echoing Caves, and then it is easy. ;)
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A new run has just been validated on speedrun.com!

Any% - PC in 01h 15m 19s by Destabilize - 5th place

Submitted: 17/11/2021
Platform: PC
Destabilize wrote:1:13:xx next?
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Re: Rayman 2 speedrunning

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DarnokPL wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:20 pm Actually today 100% contains probably more glitches/tricks than Any% - Any% is hard up to early Echoing Caves, and then it is easy. ;)
Is 100% glitchless even a thing? That would be even longer, though...
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Well, 100% Glitchless would be probably too long... And some levels - like for instance Stone & Fire - are quite uncomfortable to play without any glitches.
It is the same issue as in other games probably - limiting the categories to Any%, Any% Glitchless (or similar) and regular 100% (with glitchless) - sometimes 100% might be split into "basic glitches" and "ultraglitched". In Rayman 2 such "ultraglitched" might for instance involve lum dupplication - if it was possible - I still hope for such glitch to happen!
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New runs have just been validated on speedrun.com!

Sanct. of Stone & Fire: 100% IL - PC in 12m 55s 549ms by Darnok_PL - 1st place

Submitted: 21/11/2021
Platform: PC
Darnok_PL wrote:It is far from a perfect speedrun (I had 1 death and some minor mistakes), but at least it is faster than what I did in my full 100% speedrun.


Any% - PC in 01h 11m 25s by Torcnein - 4th place

Submitted: 19/11/2021
Platform: PC
Torcnein wrote:improvoing


Any% - PC in 01h 12m 45s by Destabilize - 5th place

Submitted: 22/11/2021
Platform: PC
Destabilize wrote:Top 3 Next?
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