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RayGamer99 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 12:13 pm Not sure why you'd want to, unless it was cheaper getting Retold separately. Again, I'd assume including Origins Enhanced is the devs' way of adding Back to Origins to the Legends remake, so it makes enough sense to have it bundled.

Haruka wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 10:42 pm While I was positively surprised to see an updated Glade of Dreams map acknowledging older locations, it brought me a concern: does this means that all the previous games (especially the original trilogy) aren't canon anymore...

• The map only shows two locations from Rayman 1: The Dream Forest and the Blue Mountains. Again, they probably couldn't cram every location from that game into one corner of this single map, but at least with these two, the mountains are still northeast of the forest, just like in the original game's world map.
• In terms of the Rayman 2 and 3 locations, I think we're forgetting that Rayman travels to most of these areas via Spiral Doors and Teensie Highways, so they could be anywhere in the world for all we know. And before anyone mentions it, yes, I know Rayman 2 had a map showing the canonical locations of that game's areas, but even then, this map stays pretty close to those. Aside from the Marshes of Awakening being southwest of the Cave of Bad Dreams instead of vice versa, just about everything else is still intact. The Iron Mountains are still northwest of the Cave of Bad Dreams, and Whale Bay is still all the way southeast from the Iron Mountains, as Polokus intended. There's even a little purple marking of what kind of looks like Carmen the Whale next to the bay!
• Now, the only game that I see as possibly retconned location-wise is Rayman Origins. That game also had a world map - albeit a very basic one that probably wasn't meant to be taken seriously - laying out the game's locations and how far they are from each other. In this regard, the new map is a complete mess. The Jibberish Jungle is now southwest from the Tree of Tranquility (which I'm assuming is the new name for the Snoring Tree) rather than directly west, the Desert of Dijiridoos is southeast from the Jibberish Jungle rather than directly north, and the Mystical Pique is west of the Jibberish Jungle rather than northeast of it. Utterly unforgivable, am I right?

Hunchman801 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 1:03 pm Time to finally share my thoughts on this, I guess!

I am sure Retold will be a solid remake and a good game in its own right despite a few minor issues, but I never asked for a Legends remake to begin with, and I honestly don't care much for it.

Unfortunately, this decision leaves me pretty concerned about the future of the franchise. It is obvious they chose to remake Legends because they want to use it as the definitive foundation for the series' identity going forward. If we ever actually get a 3D Rayman 4, I can already picture it looking much more like a 3D version of Legends rather than the mysterious universe we explored in Rayman 2 and 3.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the UbiArt games. They are fantastic platformers with beautiful art and fitting music, but structurally and tonally, they just don't fit the previous entries. I could at least imagine the environments from Origins existing somewhere in Rayman's world, but Legends is a different story entirely. The worlds are all directly ripped from real-world concepts, whether it's stereotypical medieval tropes, Jack and the Beanstalk, or James Bond. In contrast, Rayman 2 never felt like it had any real connection to our world, even if it drew vague inspiration from fairy tales. There was a specific beauty in a setting populated strictly by strange, fantastical creatures. The introduction of actual humans and real-world parodies in Legends completely changes the fundamental nature of the universe for me.

This shift in identity extends to the characters and lore too. Polokus always had a weird design, but I liked the concept of this detached, mystical creator god so much more than the goofy, hippie Bubble Dreamer living in a treehouse. Between Origins having such a convoluted, poorly told story that no one fully understands to this day, and Legends having essentially no story at all, I was perfectly content treating the UbiArt era as just a dream sequence. The fact that Rayman was literally jumping into paintings in the original Legends made it easy to assume that none of those places actually existed in the real lore.

But by trying to fix that weak narrative, Retold achieves the exact opposite of what I wanted. It cements these locations as canon reality. Rayman's world is officially one of medieval castles, dragons, and human beings. It feels so much more like a generic fantasy setting now rather than the truly unique, otherworldly universe I fell in love with in the earlier games.

I really would have preferred if they just rebooted the franchise from Rayman 3. They could have closed the book on the UbiArt era, or just let it exist in parallel by making it explicitly clear it was a dream or alternate dimension. With Retold, that option is off the table. I just have to come to terms with the fact that the Rayman universe I grew up with is gone, and even if we do eventually get a 3D Rayman 4, it is never coming back.

Hunchman801 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 1:03 pmThe fact that Rayman was literally jumping into paintings in the original Legends made it easy to assume that none of those places actually existed in the real lore.

But by trying to fix that weak narrative, Retold achieves the exact opposite of what I wanted. It cements these locations as canon reality.

Xtof60 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 3:41 pmBy the way, here is some gameplay for a couple more invaded levels

goosmaw wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2026 5:48 pm How do you think they will fit the new music levels? There are meant to be 4 new ones in the original game; there is one per world, so do you think this implies more new worlds? Because this music level doesn't fit any world but Teensies In Trouble, but Castle Rock is confirmed to be returning, so we're gonna have multiple per world, or does this imply more worlds