3DS doesn't have YouTube access. I don't use it anymore now, so I got to watch the video. Ugh, I hate that guy. I hope he won't become president, because then America would become even more of a religious anti-gay country.Tobbe wrote:I reposted it for the sake of RayTunes, who didn't have a clue what was going on, and who apparently was too lazy to figure it out himself.
Atheism can be looked at multiple ways. Honestly I see atheism as possibly meaning two things: 1, not believing in a superior power, and 2, believing in scientific explanations. However, just like anything else, it doesn't take work not to believe in something if you're secure with yourself. It's just simply a decision over rational thinking.stan423321 wrote:Despite being a believer, I must disagree, believing for the sake of believing is unbelievably close to the atheism.
Sorry I was in a bit of a rush. I'll rephrase what I said:Rsandee wrote:I've given reasons why I believe in God before, but my arguments were weak.
I'm not believing because I have to believe, that's moronic.
Edit: Rayfan, if those are the only reasons why you don't believe in God, you're not an atheist.
You only believe in Science.
Why, please, WHY does every single atheist come with THIS argument?RayTunes wrote:Atheists believe in a big explosion that somehow created a bunch of planets in universe and animals simply changed form until they were human. Sounds crazy tight? Well, I still prefer it over a man who somehow exists (Who created God?) and just makes some planets in a few days. In this place he makes people poor, makes people die, and punishes them for being gay or not believing in him. His reason is: He works in ''mysterious'' ways. I'll go with atheism.
Rsandee wrote: NOTE TO SPIRAL: Every word with hooks like this: '' should not be taken too seriously.
When I say that Atheism promises death, I don't mean it litterally, I mean that they say that there is nothing beyond death.
Well, if I were the perfect person, i'd simply have a good time instead of having to look over a planet full of dumbfucks.Rsandee wrote:
Why, please, WHY does every single atheist come with THIS argument?
People make wars, God doesn't.
After we colonized Africa, we just left.
It's OUR fault Africa is in this state. (however, we can't help them, since they need to develop their countries on their own)
Conclusion: God doesn't make people die, we do.
God doesn't make people poor, we do. (seriously, what could God possibly gain from this?)
God doesn't punish people for being gay or not believing in him.
There is no ''hell'', some catholics also agree with that. (Note for Spiral: You don't have to believe every single line of a religion to actually follow it)
Blah blah blah, he sure works in ''myserious ways''.
No, he just made the planet, put us on it; and after the years the church went mad with power. (which is why the church should never have a role in politics)
And now we're practically destroying the planet and with that ourselves.
Ffs, you can't rely on God with everything, you'll have to live your own life; that's why God made you. (If you believe in him)
It must be fun to check out various beliefs, see which one sounds the nicest, then decide to believe passionately in it. As I have said many times, atheism implies a grim future of death and non-existence for all of us. The simple fact that this is an awful prospect does not mean that it’s incorrect, as the universe is not an inherently nice place. Maybe your brain is wired in such a way that you can choose to abandon logic and select more pleasant beliefs. Unfortunately I prefer real logic. I’m not trying to convince you: feel free to continue believing in God for what’s left of your life – you will never know that you were wrong.Rsandee wrote:I've got a question.
I believe in God, because if God doesn't exist, there is no ''goal'' in life.
See it like Minecraft, you make a base, you mine a bit, you get a diamond pickaxe.
Now what?
What could you possibly do next?
What happens when you die?
Everything you've done and ''fought'' for, will mean nothing, because there are millions of others.
God promises ''eternal life''.
Atheism ''promises'' death.
Most Atheists also don't believe in souls, when my brain dies, so does my consciousness.
You'll be literally ''erased''.
Now then, my question would be: Why are most of you here atheists? It's like believing human lifes are worth ''nothing''.
NOTE TO SPIRAL: Every word with hooks like this: '' should not be taken too seriously.
When I say that Atheism promises death, I don't mean it litterally, I mean that they say that there is nothing beyond death.
Why do you keep addressing sidenotes to me? I don’t see what I’m supposed to do with this one.Rsandee wrote:There is no ''hell'', some catholics also agree with that. (Note for Spiral: You don't have to believe every single line of a religion to actually follow it)
Any evidence?There is even an existing book about ''how to make people believe in God.'' It was found in the secret documents of the United States, which have been pirated.
Just where in the Bible did God say that?Meh, I don't think God would just have us do with he planet in any way we want. And what about other planets then? Are they just there for a bit of decoration?
) or anything else?
Assuming ''Allah'' isn't the same as the christian God, even though ''Allah'' means ''god'', he could exist.How do you know Allah is real?
I love you Tobbe for two reasons: 1, we agree on everything. 2, You're crazy good at describing things to-the-point. On a side-note, you spelled existence wrong.Tobbe wrote:Every time I read one of Rsandee's posts, my brain is on the verge of imploding.
It seems to me the only reason you think god exists is because you think it's more comforting than the alternative, and that you don't really in your heart of hearts believe it. You keep saying this is false, but every single post where you adress the motives of your faith is evidence to the contrary. Those of us who are Atheists are simply not intellectually dishonest enough to let subjective emotions get in the way of the obvious fact that there's no convincing evidence for god's existance; we care more about what's actually true, than what we want to be true.
Well, I never saw any prove of God's existence, that the Bible is true, or that HE has ever done anything. So far we're still at the same level.Rsandee wrote:@Raytunes,
I just proved that God didn't do anything (come on atheists, if you don't believe in him, don't think HE did it) with the world's hunger.
Well, in that case, i'll just tell him he's a complete idiot.Rsandee wrote:It's like that South Park episode where Cartman had a bowl of water, and put semen (Sea-men, semen :')) in it.
Later on, they ''evolved'' and built statues of Cartman, after that there was a war and they fired missles at eachother, killing themselves and breaking the bowl.
Cartman couldn't help it because he didn't ''make'' the missles, and he didn't have anything to do with the war or anything else.
There's also a Futurama episode which makes the same point.
God doesn't ''controll'' our actions, he gave us free will.
It's on my brothers computer. I can't download it on mine. It is extremely large and makes his computer slow.Rsandee wrote: Any evidence?
This could very well be a hoax, since you can't believe anything nowadays.
My boy, I gave up with reading after the first sentence. You know Murphy's famous quote: ''It's all in here. If you read, you'll find your way out. Once upon a time there were lums, harmony, love, peace BORING!''Rsandee wrote: Just where in the Bible did God say that?
And just where did he say that there aren't any other planets, or aliens (not saying they exist
Oh, but then that could that it is possibly true that Allah told Bin Laden was told have people fly through a building? If Buddha existed, that would be pretty cool though.Rsandee wrote:Assuming ''Allah'' isn't the same as the christian God, even though ''Allah'' means ''god'', he could exist.
Buddha could exist too, nowhere in the Bible does it say that God is the only god, God only said that he was a ''jealous'' God and he doesn't want us to ''worship'' them. (Because HE made us, if you believe in him)
